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by joebangles @ 10/01/2008 - 12:51:29

A few lines from, “Not Dead Enough” a book by Peter James, http://www.peterjames.com available from Pan Books, http://www.panmacmillan.com

Cleo telephones her friend Millie, Millie says,

“You’re a bloody idiot, Cleo. What do you expect him to do? What would you do in that situation?
“He lied to me”
“All men lie. That’s how they operate. If you want a long term relationship with a man, you’ve got to understand it’s going to be with a liar. It’s in their nature - it’s generic, it’s a bloody Darwinian acquired characteristic for survival, OK? They tell you what they want you to hear”
“Great”
“Yep, well, it’s true. Women lie too, in different ways. I’ve lied about most of the orgasms Robert ever thinks I’ve had.”
“Dosen’t seem much of a basis to build a relationship on, lies”
“I’m not saying it’s all lies - I’m saying that if you are looking for perfection, Cleo, your going to end up alone”.


 
 

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la_spicela_spice [Member]
10/01/08 @ 12:57

This bears out what Ranfuchs has been saying just recently: http://ranfuchs.blog.co.uk/2008/01/09/about_arguments_and_relationships~3549814

I agree men lie naturally and women do too but can't see what the point of keep writing about it if we all know it happens...is it a call for more honesty, because if it is, I guess it's just not going to happen...my hubby's lied to me on occasions, my son did often as well, doesn't mean to say I don't love them still...sometimes their lies have wounded me badly but I can understand why they did it so get over it pretty quickly...basically the male premise is probably 'say anything but the truth for a quiet life', and women's reasons for lying is just about the same...:) Maybe lies exist to keep the peace more than to hurt or cause damage...they can be a pain in the arse but there we go, what annoying habit isn't in this existence...Big hugs...

kevinwilsonkevinwilson pro
10/01/08 @ 13:39

i can't believe there is anyone on the planet who has never lied.

LarubiaLarubia [Member]
11/01/08 @ 14:58

He he...used to think i was honest...now i know spent most of my life lying to myself and others...is it genetic? As Oscar Wilde said "the truth is rarely pure and never simple.."

joebanglesjoebangles [Member]
11/01/08 @ 20:23

No, not genetic, it's just the circumstances at that moment, me, I have never lied, oooops, just told another one.

GSmudgerGSmudger [Member]
15/01/08 @ 18:12

Being a good liar is useful to me at work. I'm not in sales and I'm not a conman, but often truth hurts and is simply neither wanted nor needed. It's a trickier issue in relationships, but who hasn't told a well-intentioned lie to their other half? In the heat of an argument, utter honesty can be disastrous. Things get complex if you start a relationship cherishing honesty and then spend years lying to maintain the beautiful fiction that nothing has changed. Should every house have a consequence-free confessional?

joebanglesjoebangles [Member]
15/01/08 @ 22:33

A "consequence-free confessional", now that does sound like a good idea, easier to tell another lie if you can't see the face, maybe it would be the road to more problems if you knew that it was there waiting for you and consequence free.

Welcome to this blog place GS, I dipped into your blog, quick scan, interested enough to go back later and have another look. Bad luck about the accident and glad that you are recovering.

Want to buy a bike?.

GSmudgerGSmudger [Member]
16/01/08 @ 00:05

Cheers JB and thanks for the welcome. The tricky thing is keeping track of the truth even if your instincts tend that way. Some of the best and biggest liars I've met, and I'm including womanisers and criminals here, got that far by believing their own whoppers. I think we're all guilty of the same thing to some degree. Our brain helps us cope with the complexities of the world by sanding off the edges and letting us see what we want to see. We should all at least admit we're fallible. Having a shrewd, rude friend to act as a confessor has to be good if only to stop you lying to yourself. Late night blather ends.
I'll take a raincheck on the bike unless it's a Specialized Allez Double with a XXL frame. I'll also need a year or so to get my nerve back.
I'll look forward to dipping into your blog which likewise looks interesting.

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